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Met with seasoned copper gravure printmaker Barbara Sanders<\/a> this week and had a lively exchange of information with her and her ceramicist husband Bill regarding the craft and business side of art.\u00a0 Barbara is migrating from copper to polymer with great success as she works toward “close enough to perfect” to feel good about the process.\u00a0 This is the quandary with most printmakers as our thirst for perfection is hard to quench.<\/p>\n

The main geek topic of our conversation was how to best start to derive a compensation curve and exposure times.\u00a0 Barbara had taken a sample of my company’s custom aquatint screen back home with her after our meeting and came back with some absolute numbers.\u00a0 Here is the email exchange and some of my thoughts about starting to derive a curve, screen exposure time and image exposure time:<\/p>\n

—–Original Message—–
\nFrom: Bill and Barbara Sanders
\nSent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:48 AM
\nTo: Jon Lybrook
\nSubject: thanks<\/p>\n

Such a fun afternoon!
\nThank you for taking the time to see me and my work. I sure love your prints!
\nI measured the density of your screen\u00a0 :\u00a0 about 53\/54 whatever units the densitometer is in
\nmy new screen\u00a0\u00a0 : about 168\/170
\nmy old screen\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 : about 80\/83
\nhence the different exposure times aside from our different exposure units wattage. Complicated but still fun!
\nOff to Mac class!
\nMany thanks again.
\nBarb<\/p>\n

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Thanks Barbara,<\/p>\n

Thanks for the screen measurement.\u00a0 Like I said I don’t know a lot about measuring density. I guess because I pretty much worked out my process backwards from the resulting print back to the curve and exposure times.\u00a0 The absolute density of a screen and film positive meant nothing to me in the beginning since I had no point of reference, unlike photogravurist John Goodman<\/a> and those who have had a historical knowledge of their materials and the process.\u00a0 I could only hope my screens were consistent, and so far they have seemed to be.\u00a0 But I am curious about it and appreciate your encouragement in that direction.\u00a0 It would help to verify consistency among my limited stock of custom screens.<\/p>\n

Since these screens are made up of dots, as black as we can get the imagesetter to produce them, I’m assuming it’s taking an average of the dots-to-clear-film ratio and coming up with a number.\u00a0 In other words, it’s not measuring a continuous-tone density as traditional film provides, but rather a combination of these factors.<\/p>\n

I’m presuming your screens read darker because the dots are bigger, allowing less light to come through.\u00a0 Not because the dots on your screens are more opaque than mine, though if your exposure time of the screen\/image is too high, the density of the dots on the screen would certainly be a factor as well.<\/p>\n

To get a good curve and exposure time relationship, I test first by getting the screen to produce the richest black in my exposure and still provide tone up the scale.\u00a0 This is where<\/p>\n

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Gradient circle test Grid by Intaglio Editions<\/p><\/div>\n

those gradient circle tests in my procedure<\/a> occurred – to get a ball-park sense of where I am.\u00a0 I would then tweak the curve in conjunction with exposure times until I was able to maintain a rich black and get some added continuous tone in the highlights.\u00a0 Trying to keep the black where it was, I’d tweak the process compensation curve and exposure times as needed to bring out more and more of the greys in both shadows and highlights.\u00a0 Kind of like chasing your own tail in a way at first, but these factors start to even out if the testing is paced and consistent.<\/p>\n

Subtle, but possibly relevant point pertaining to the quality of the outcome and the reason why I went with an extremely fine screen:\u00a0 Bigger the dots, the more contrast, the more contrast, the less possible grey tones.\u00a0 I like lots of grey-tone potential because you can always add contrast in the film transparency and make it more graphic if you want to, but you can’t add broad continuous tone until you’ve been able to achieve it already through a balanced combination of the process compensation curve along with proper exposure times of the screen and film positive.<\/p>\n

Best of luck with your curve training.\u00a0 Let me know if\u00a0 there are any questions I can answer in your journey!<\/p>\n

Best regards,<\/p>\n

Jon<\/p>\n

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